need_anoutlet ([info]need_anoutlet) wrote in [info]stupid_free,
2008-09-19 08:29:00
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In the already lolz-filled tragedy that is [info]proanorexia, Dylan, the creepy 58-year old male Mod ([info]not_this_planet has decided to start charging all of the underage anaz for membership under the guise that he is "saving their lives." Enraged, some intelligent debate starts up concerning the issue in the community [info]ed_ucate.

If this sounds ethically wrong, cult-ish and/or messed up to any of us, it's only because he's shit at putting himself across in a way that makes him look good. Here is one example in which he is clearly trying to do good and just SEEMS like a complete dick, in which he suggests selling diet pills through proanorexia as a way to raise money to *~*~*save lives*~*~.

Enter [info]king_josie, one of Dylan's proana followers, who stridently begins defending her cult leader at every opportunity.

Some of Dylan's controversial beleifs are brought to light, like his feelings on children and how restricting their calories is much better than a child developing full-blown anorexia. Another gem is that anorexia is all about the calories which brings to mind the idea that all an anorectic needs to do is eat a few cheeseburgers and POOF, all better!

It also appears that proana's fearless leader is anorexic himself, and clarifies his stupidity by saying I am 100% in denial of adverse health affects. Does that make me anorexic? Yes. Does it make me less healthy? No. Also I've got a BMI of 16.5, I've been clinically anorexic AND QUITE HEALTHY for over 30 years. Ah, genius at its best. When asked whether or not Dylan is qualified to be handling thousands of starving, miserable 13 year old anas, he replies I've got enough background in psychology that I can take an anorexic who is scared of food, and USING EMAIL ONLY, get them to a point where they WANT TO EAT and are willing to VOLUNTARILY INCREASE THEIR CALORIE LEVEL TO THE POINT OF OPTIMAL NUTRITION. To test this theory, email starz@soon.com

Some more stupid on the part of [info]not_this_planet includes:
These anorexics are not sick. In fact, they are healthier than you. Their bodies are aging more slowly and they have a lower incidence of nearly every major malady.
The best method of recovery is tostay with the thin body and continue controlling the diet and the bmi. Some enjoy the control - some have careers that require the thin body. ah yes, anorexia as a job requirement, who can argue with that?
What could be closer to ideal than taking someone who wants desperately to be thin, and getting them to the highest possible level of health attainable by them, without weight gain, including a custom designed "lifestyle" that will allow them to maintain it forever?"
Well, first of all, I don't promote "recovery" at all. I see little evidence that it gives people the body and lifestyle they want, and I see an unacceptably high relapse rate. I promote getting healthy. Cuz we all know how unhealthy it is to recover from an eating disorder!!!11
More gems to be found in this thread.

The moral of this story is, anorexia is the best idea EVAR, and also you should be paying $950 a month to some 60 year old interwebz cult leader to fix your ~ana~. The logic astounds.

EDIT: http://community.livejournal.com/dylans_corner/ HE HAS HIS OWN DR. PHIL-ESQUE LJ COMMUNITY. Please 2 direct ur concerns there.

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[info]mazzie

September 19 2008, 15:24:07 UTC 3 years ago

tl;dr.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:31:14 UTC 3 years ago

cliffs: 60 year old cult leader decides that anorexia saves lives, corrupts many impressionable 13 year olds for money.

[info]mazzie

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[info]yenesi

September 19 2008, 15:24:22 UTC 3 years ago

I stand firmly by my comment in sf_d that he sounds like a cult leader.

[info]totokate

September 19 2008, 15:26:46 UTC 3 years ago

Yes. And probably also overweight and smelly.

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[info]la_chica_08

September 19 2008, 15:26:07 UTC 3 years ago

that guy freaks me out. he's not qualified in any way, yet he's giving them nutritional information. Plus some of the entries on proana are decidely PRO ana...how does he think this helps?

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:29:48 UTC 3 years ago

I don't think there's a single NON pro-ana post in that community. It's like a giant black hole of depressed teenagers with him leading the way.

[info]penguinsane

September 19 2008, 15:30:12 UTC 3 years ago

How is that community NOT shut down yet? Good god.

[info]talonvaki

September 19 2008, 15:44:12 UTC 3 years ago

Because you know, it's more important to worry about the lives of underage fictional characters rather than actual living people.

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[info]mazzie

September 19 2008, 15:32:53 UTC 3 years ago

dude, you misunderstand. clinically anorexic, totally healthy!


excuse me I have to go vomit in a coffee can.

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[info]koritsimou

September 19 2008, 15:31:12 UTC 3 years ago

Is it sad that my most violent response to that was "Holy Shit! $Nine hundred and fifty bucks?!"

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:32:07 UTC 3 years ago

I don't know, but people actually paying $950 a month to the world's biggest douche is a VERY sad thing.

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[info]maniacalsecret

September 19 2008, 15:34:17 UTC 3 years ago

LOL, I was wondering about that, too.

[info]need_anoutlet

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[info]haiirobomb

September 19 2008, 15:33:48 UTC 3 years ago

This guy is an idiot. And anybody who pays him for his fucked up services is too.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:35:06 UTC 3 years ago

but ... but ... think of the CHILDREN!!

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[info]la_chica_08

September 19 2008, 15:36:58 UTC 3 years ago

Did you see his answering post in ed_ucate? he disabled comments b/c he says he answered all questions...not once did he talk about the money or donations.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:38:11 UTC 3 years ago

I did not see that, link?

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[info]suitablyemoname

September 19 2008, 15:37:55 UTC 3 years ago

Judging by the price, he clearly knows Bishop Thing and the rest of the housemates video game family.

These anorexics are not sick. In fact, they are healthier than you. Their bodies are aging more slowly and they have a lower incidence of nearly every major malady.

AND I HAVE DR. GOOGLE TO PROVE IT!!!!!!!

We will, of course, ignore the fact that anorexia kills about as many people as your typical hard drug addiction. GOOGLE HAS SPOKEN!

[info]suitablyemoname

September 19 2008, 15:48:05 UTC 3 years ago

Also,

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[info]randomneses

September 19 2008, 15:39:09 UTC 3 years ago

Can proana bullshit please just be fucking banned from LJ. Legit support groups and ED education are one thing but comms filled with posts basically with tips on how to fucking starve yourself/die need to go. It's really awful.

[info]super_loulou

September 19 2008, 15:52:41 UTC 3 years ago

I know, it's absolutely fucking outrageous, and LJ refuse to do ANYTHING about it. Apparently encouraging young females to starve themselves is acceptable, but snarking pictures of shit tattoos is a deletable offense. Fuck you LJ.

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[info]relivethemagic

September 19 2008, 15:46:09 UTC 3 years ago

I can't even believe this.
Like... really?!

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:50:54 UTC 3 years ago

ya rly

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[info]tune

September 19 2008, 15:46:14 UTC 3 years ago

[info]ed_ucate....the anas are witty.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:51:27 UTC 3 years ago

statistically, most anorectics are actually very intelligent.
pro-anas and minors are obviously not included in this statistic.

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[info]ex_pathogen

September 19 2008, 15:47:49 UTC 3 years ago



JIM JONES RIDES AGAIN!

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:51:44 UTC 3 years ago

OHMYGOD. he went to my college!

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[info]popelizbet

September 19 2008, 15:48:14 UTC 3 years ago

Report his gross ass.

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[info]sister_anne

September 19 2008, 15:53:47 UTC 3 years ago

That was...bizarre.

[info]temp_revenge

September 19 2008, 15:53:59 UTC 3 years ago

I'm pro-suicide and I think everyone on that journal is perfect for our organization "KILLYOURSELFFUCKINGNOW".

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:58:06 UTC 3 years ago

have you seen the suicide club? you'd like it.

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[info]artichokes

September 19 2008, 15:54:06 UTC 3 years ago

Oh good lord.

That Slate article didn't impress me either. CRONies are CRONies and anorexics are anorexics. Some anorexics try to conceal or justify their eating disorder by saying they're into CRON, or raw foodism, or veganism. Those three things can be pretty cool lifestyle changes independent of an eating disorder...it doesn't mean they're necessarily linked. Ugh.

[info]sattyknight

September 19 2008, 15:54:20 UTC 3 years ago

I typically don't wish death on others, but he just needs to hurry up and die already.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 15:58:53 UTC 3 years ago

he's going to live forever because he's ana.

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[info]korean_guy_01

September 19 2008, 15:55:36 UTC 3 years ago

LJ violation

[info]randomneses

September 19 2008, 16:01:55 UTC 3 years ago

LJ never cares about that stuff unless it's drawings of fictional characters fucking. Real people aren't srs bsns.

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[info]pikabot

September 19 2008, 15:59:28 UTC 3 years ago

Isn't chargeing for comm membership stridently against the ToS? Even if LJ doesn't want to shut them down for, you know, being a horrible blight upon out society, surely they'd be willing to nail them for that.

[info]need_anoutlet

September 19 2008, 16:01:09 UTC 3 years ago

sadly, the language isn't directly violating them. he says that a $5 donation is strongly recommended ... but apparently not REQUIRED. Clever little fuckwit he is.

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[info]randomneses

September 19 2008, 15:59:51 UTC 3 years ago

OMG WUT?

[info]yenesi

September 19 2008, 16:22:48 UTC 3 years ago

Is that supposed to be an inside joke? Please tell me it is. :(

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[info]briannablade

September 19 2008, 15:59:51 UTC 3 years ago

There are 18,400+ members in that community. I'm wondering how many people from this community are in that one...

[info]ionicaq

September 19 2008, 16:01:08 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  September 19 2008, 16:02:02 UTC

There's a post by aria_star...

Oh hai pg 2!

[info]meleth

September 19 2008, 17:18:32 UTC 3 years ago

Go read the sf_d post. She's trying to get him to claim this is legitimate medical advice, so that he can be reported for that. She's as disgusted by this as anyone else.

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